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Offline Alfamale

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« on: January 16, 2004, 09:00:30 PM »
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Just a little reminder for all of you playing Anarchy Online,



Last night a person cracked the account which belong to one of our members. We belive, or assume he used the e-mail address to obtain the username/password.



With the excuse that he/she was making a new AO website, he managed to scam 2x MNT's from guild members, in addition various items and credits from the cracked account. And if that wasn't enough, he/she tried to scam 2 friends of ours from Tranquility aswell, where he/she didn't succeed. And I would like to apology for anyone who experienced any loss with this lowlife.





Call it naive and stupid, yet there are people who belive others won't do such things.



These are valuable items for the persons involved, and in my opinion they are personal property, hence they earned these items themselves, spending time on a game they subscribe, and pay real money for.



I figure the thief will not be taken, nor will others see any evidence(which I am 100% sure exist), nor will the items stolen be reimbursed.



This is wrong.



I have cancelled my 2 accounts, I can't accept this.



And by all means, take precautions againts scams like this.



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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2004, 10:04:12 PM »
Give me some contact/IP information about this person, I can hack the person, bring down his/her site/servers if needed.



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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2004, 10:17:17 PM »
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Give me some contact/IP information about this person, I can hack the person, bring down his/her site/servers if needed.



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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2004, 01:28:33 AM »
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Give me some contact/IP information about this person, I can hack the person, bring down his/her site/servers if needed.



Amona



If your seeking acceptance or try to look / be professional in your field of work this is not the way to do it.. its more sad, really.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2004, 01:34:26 AM »
People are not stupid for trusting someone their Non NoDrop loot.

Everyone has their cases here and there.



Funcoms policy "any trade is final" kinda gets back at you there. And since it was a hacker or whatever a stolen account the reputation wasnt at stake for that person but only the player name .. win win situation.



I do feel sorry for the person hacked , and the persons in name 'stolen' item from . But as Funcom so nicely put it , any trade is final unfortainly.



Edit : Dont start another Amona flame thingy please , focus on the original post?
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2004, 01:59:37 AM »
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And by all means, take precautions againts scams like this.



How does one take precautions against this person? What exactly did he do to be able to hack your member's account? It's a little hard taking precautions when we don't know what to look for...

It really sucks that people do these kind of things but there will always be assholes who do this shit.

Anyway, soz to see anoter AO'er leave over stuff like this. Best of luck to u in RL Alpha :(

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2004, 08:29:29 AM »
Quote from: Letah
Quote from: Amona
Give me some contact/IP information about this person, I can hack the person, bring down his/her site/servers if needed.



Amona



If your seeking acceptance or try to look / be professional in your field of work this is not the way to do it.. its more sad, really.



Any unneccessary comment by self-initiation and based on pure twisted assumptionsis a waste, and bad karma Letah, I'm not even going to try and defend or explain to you in detail why i'm willing to stop someone for good when FC won't, or maybe can't due to policy / privacy, do it, simply because your butt-stupid flame shows how low you go.



Just because you have griefs against me for warning you on #anarchyonline on irc.funcom.com Lethah, and you beeing the proud user of a AO-client hack patching and modifying the client to use nude-textures and posting that on your forum beeing a plain idiotic rolemodel for the X amount of minors in your guild and posting that in #anarchyonline repetadly even when we tell you not to doesn't mean your'e the most responsible or "i-know-better-how" person in this world.



acceptance? If i wanted "acceptance" Letah, then it's safe to say i've gotten more acceptance for 10 lifetimes, but i don't need it. What would be nice though would be for you to take your pissingcontest elsewhere, i've taken enough crap from you when i was op on irc, and yet never taken any crap from you personally and had you as one of the network-administrator on IGN all that time giving you the benefit of doubt thinking that even though you're an A-hole to me, you're professional and responsible.



Let the the first one without a sin cast the first stone. That means you'll have to wait forever i guess.



And yes, nothing gives me more satisfaction than screwing a cracker/thief preying on innocent decent players. What are you gonna do about it? *shivers*



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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2004, 09:13:26 AM »
I dont trust my guildies anything. NEVAR!


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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2004, 10:31:00 AM »
The Sad part is, that FC doesnt seem to give a frelling care in the world... Wasn't there a case, where the hacked got banned ?? ohh well...
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2004, 11:14:27 AM »
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The Sad part is, that FC doesnt seem to give a frelling care in the world... Wasn't there a case, where the hacked got banned ?? ohh well...



Yes, several times, because the only way to know for sure for FC is if the original owner says the 4 last digits of his/her VISA. But problem there is many who orders with someone elses VISA , like a parents VISA because they don't have VISA themselves and then dont have access to it or never occurred to them to remember it/write it down. If the hacker doesnt know the digits , and the original claiming owner doesnt either there's not much to do other than close the account or investigate with ex guild-friends long time friends confirming relations etc as to how the FC account system is.



Many companies use a emergency system, which is much safer, precise and beyond any misunderstanding. Basically a emergency password and/or a emergency question, which can ONLY be configured and viewed when the account is made, never later even if accessing the account. The company can then easily ask the emergency question, if the

person knows the correct question, then it's the original owner, since only the owner can have made and seen the answer when he/she originally made the account.



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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2004, 12:55:09 PM »
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I dont trust my guildies anything. NEVAR!



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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2004, 06:05:31 PM »
Yea, I agree with Letah here. I think its kind of stupid to immediately be wanting IP information and threatening to break out your "ub3r l337 h4xx0r1n6 5k331z" based on a post that an anonymous joe made on a forum. Do you really know the facts here? Do you really know the person who made the post is who they say they are? Do you really know that the account was actually hacked and not just sold to an ass on e-bay, or even still, was not hacked at all but rather the person screwed the name of one character in order to make profit for another character or for himself? You really don't know the facts, and to be making threats to take an illegal action so quickly really is an ignorant thing to do. Surely you're smarter than that? right? :?

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2004, 06:14:26 PM »
Thanks Treydor, you saved me an attempt to explain my point. Amona, I'm the youngest in my guild and I'm 23. Our average age is 30. If you think appreciating naked things is something that belongs to 16 year olds I feel pitty for you that you repressed those feelings in the name of maturing. For the rest of my answer I refer to the post above me.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2004, 06:32:25 PM »
I still dream about Letah naked..I mean..HACKERS BAD! YEAH YEAH

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2004, 06:45:57 PM »
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Give me some contact/IP information about this person, I can hack the person, bring down his/her site/servers if needed.



Grow a brain please. Your post-ban ub3r1337n355 is getting ridiculous.



With all the crap you've spewed after you got banned - if I was FC, I'd ban you on general principle.

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2004, 06:52:53 PM »
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I still dream about Letah naked..I mean..HACKERS BAD! YEAH YEAH



lol :-)



After the whole Mewreck fiasco i'm pretty careful who i lend stuff out to.  There are probably less than 10 ppl in storm that i think i know well enough to lend anything of value to.  (Mewreck could have had some of my stuff if he had asked because we were good buddies back in Tempest before we found out he was a real asshole)



The all trades are final thing is good.  Can you imagine how much administrative bullshit Funcom would have to deal with?  If that rule weren't there, i think there would be many more problems than the we currently have with the rare random scammer.
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2004, 08:17:13 PM »
Quote from: Letah
Thanks Treydor, you saved me an attempt to explain my point. Amona, I'm the youngest in my guild and I'm 23. Our average age is 30. If you think appreciating naked things is something that belongs to 16 year olds I feel pitty for you that you repressed those feelings in the name of maturing. For the rest of my answer I refer to the post above me.



Sure, and at the time it came out there sas minors watching this in your guild, regardless of how many 30 years old you might / might not have, pretty pathetic to try and glorify using a AO hack in a irresponsible way.



If you think appreciating people using hacks that are illegal, to post content that is nude showing it repeatedly in #anarchyonline infront of even more minors, well, then you're a sad sad person, really. I love porn, not just plain nudity, but i dont go mental when someone try to tell me not to post nude pics in a official gaming channel filled with minors, thats not my idea of expressing my interest and appriciation in a responisble way.



What you give is what you get Letah, you sound funny when you try to look like you actually believe your own words.



Treydor: I would check the facts first an talk to the other person aswell yes before doing anything. Maybe i would do something, maybe i wouldnt, depends on what i'd find out and how confirmable those facts were from other sources.



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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2004, 08:40:27 PM »
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I love porn



ehehehehehe



anywho, Letah didint make the "hack" OMG THE SKIN CHANINGNESS. And actually FC programed it in there, some clever person just found out how to use it for fun. Now lets calm down and look at naked people some more





And I hope I'm one of those 10 people because I umm need your stuff to test before I leave..yeah...k

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2004, 08:48:21 PM »
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I dont trust my guildies anything. NEVAR!



OMG gimmi my bootz back!!  :lol:

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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2004, 09:40:10 PM »
If I was you I should do some background-check on what you call "porn" as well. Boobs are shown in regular commercials here as well. The pics I posted on that thread in my forums would be allowed on television at 7 pm in my country, no problem. You sound very american (no offence to the americans :p ) about your definition of porn.



Dunno about your country but we put ages on violence content and have a all-ages on anything that does not show zoomed-in genitals, because the latter is porn. Its worse showing your kid someone who is getting killed then a couple of breasts or people having intercourse.



About the patch being a hack and illegal; I'm sorry to burst your bubble but before I used it I already contacted Funcom about it.



The MOTD of IRC says no Porn. It doesnt say no nudeness. It's a bit hard disallowing nudeness in a gaming channel with a game that has nudeness built in, has emotes touching your genitals, underwear without crotches and ads of busty woman boasting about having implants.



Your good in twisting facts and posting long-assed posts, I give you that. Too bad they all do not defend the stupid remark of your demand of an IP to put your 1337 haxxor skills at work. This thread is not about me posting "porn" in the IRC channel, sorry.



You obviously hate funcom, why don't you just leave? Your only being annoying to a lot of people. And no, I do not want to hear a 10 pages long sad story from you after saying this, I'm not interested.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2004, 10:51:00 PM »
wow fun thread

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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2004, 12:40:34 AM »
okay, that's enough.  I'm banning Amona from the forums and locking this thread....





...oh shit.  I'm only moderator of the roleplay forums.  



Well then allow me to divert this into something crude and sexual so that you two ladies can join forces against me and afterwards taste of your sweet nectars, legs spread eagle on the sand.....



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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2004, 07:22:53 AM »
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If I was you I should do some background-check on what you call "porn" as well. Boobs are shown in regular commercials here as well. The pics I posted on that thread in my forums would be allowed on television at 7 pm in my country, no problem. You sound very american (no offence to the americans :p ) about your definition of porn.



Dunno about your country but we put ages on violence content and have a all-ages on anything that does not show zoomed-in genitals, because the latter is porn. Its worse showing your kid someone who is getting killed then a couple of breasts or people having intercourse.



About the patch being a hack and illegal; I'm sorry to burst your bubble but before I used it I already contacted Funcom about it.



The MOTD of IRC says no Porn. It doesnt say no nudeness. It's a bit hard disallowing nudeness in a gaming channel with a game that has nudeness built in, has emotes touching your genitals, underwear without crotches and ads of busty woman boasting about having implants.



Your good in twisting facts and posting long-assed posts, I give you that. Too bad they all do not defend the stupid remark of your demand of an IP to put your 1337 haxxor skills at work. This thread is not about me posting "porn" in the IRC channel, sorry.



You obviously hate funcom, why don't you just leave? Your only being annoying to a lot of people. And no, I do not want to hear a 10 pages long sad story from you after saying this, I'm not interested.





Wake up Letah, either your'e extremely stupid and ignorant, or you're playing on the hope of that someone here reading is.

"There's no warning about nudeness in the MOTD", get a fucking clue, i mean, really, we were 5 op's all telling you this, repeatedly, and you still didnt listen (infact , you still dont ) and threatened to sick CZ on us all, ouh *shiver*. You're a little power-troll and you just can't handle resistance. It's not built into the game, that patch works around a checksum-routine for some textureloading from certain bikini-item ID's, allowing to use a modified one instead.

Those photos or yours are unwelcome in an official game channel thats full of minors, its nude material + encougages to hack the AO client illegaly, that's thy you were warned, but yout too high on your horse to get the message, poor you.



Also Letah, you start flaming someone in a forum by your own initiative, then expect to get back, so stop whining like a sissy will you.



You made this post about something else the split second you took it off focus and decided to flame me for my offer to that guy, boo hoo, live with it, it's your own creation.





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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2004, 07:32:20 AM »
Hmm this fight would be good for the guys if yall put on teeshirts with no bra's and jumped in the kiddie pool.



Just becareful, yall gonna go bald with all the hair pulling.


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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2004, 08:07:14 AM »
Amone cut the crap allready.

I get your point but if you want to state something do it without insulting everyone and everything.

These forums are a place of free expression, with very little boundaries, nudity is something we tolerate, being offensive isn't.

Besides it shouldn't be too hard to express your opinions without using the words "retard", "dumbass" or whatever. And I'm sure many people would take you more seriously if you did.

Yeah, a few minors might see these pics, big deal, by the time you are twelve you can get access to hardcore porn easily enough if you try, especially if you are hooked on the internet.

Yeah in a way it is a hack, but then again, big deal, it doesn't harm anyone, it doesn't give you any advantage over others, except if you consider not wasting time to log and jack over some porn as an advantage  :roll: .

This is the last warning I'm giving you, I friggin hate banning people from our forums, so don't make me do it. It would be a pity too, cause I'm sure we could get some interesting debates going if you formulated your thoughts a bit differently.



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